Deconstructing the Myth of Lil Wayne…
Jun 12, 2008 Author: BKScribe | Filed under: Hip Hop, commentary, gremlins, lil wayneOverrated or Understated?
Before I go in on this topic… let me state for the record I do not listen to Lil Wayne’s music, I didn’t look for The Carter III leak 2 weeks before the retail release date, I couldn’t name 2 songs off of The Carter II and know Wayne best from the song “Bling Bling” which came out when the bulk of Weezy’s current fan base was a wee 10 years old.
The first rule of proving a point is to validate why your qualified to speak on such a point and to the untrained eye I seemingly disqualified myself for my lack of extensive Weezy knowledge. Let me say.. it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see the obvious.. and hereeee we go.
First off… I knew of Wayne from his Hot Boy (whoa) days and they barely blipped on my Hip Hop radar. Being from NYC we had no shortage of quality rap to listen to… so if some other region was making noise and that shit wasn’t the absolute truth. It didn’t matter. Yes.. those days are far gone. However one day I was in the Virgin Megastore at Union Sq. in Manhattan and I saw the new Flex on display.The Tunnel… In NYC The Tunnel was the most gully spot you could ever hit up, so I gravitated towards the CD and pressed play. Eventually I get to a track called “Respect” featuring the Hot Boys… I give it a listen and to my surprise Lil Wayne, before he went by Weezy, Young Money and all that other bullshit, actually ripped it. I said this muthafucka just separated himself from the pack.
As the story goes NY fell off… as to the how and why of this happening is up to debate and meant for a later discussion/post and the south of all places gained prominence… again.. later discussion and post. The last beacon of light at the time was Hov… Yea 50 sold crazy, but Hov was widely considered the greatest rapper alive and Lil Wayne’s fanboy status regarding Jay-z was pretty well known. So once Jiggaman decided 8 summers was enough and “Retired”, Lil Wayne made the statement, “I’m the greatest rapper alive, since the greatest rapper retired”, which managed to show respect to Jay, but also declared in a display of Bravado and dare say I, ’swag’ Weezy’s designs on the Hip Hop throne. To me at the time this was more of a WTF moment. I mean who the fuck does weezy think he is. Nas anyone? Snoop perhaps… The point is depending upon your regional preference you could have argued 10 or more names to be considered the active best rapper even though by the amount of time put in Wayne had achieved Veteran Status. All the media outlets who wanted to have the same exclusive everyone else would have at the same time jumped on that quote like vultures on a carcass and the Hip Hop masses ate it up. A few speculated a Hov retaliation out of retirement, while others called bullshit… atleast in NY. I wasn’t simultaneously all over the country at that point, but one thing I can say is NY was so full of its own shit such as its former status in the dominant slot of the Hip Hop world that we simply held on to the memories of the days of yore while the south rose.
Quantity over Quality
I can’t pretend to understand the standards these young bastards hold their music to today. I actually tried to have a convo with some 18 year old kid who swore that Wayne was the illest to ever do it. I said what?? please give me a reason as to why you think this bullshit. He went on to recite this quote as proof..
“I’m a venereal disease like a menstrual I bleed”
And thats all he said. My response was WTF to which he replied “nah what he is trying to say is he’s sick” I had to laugh at this lil fuck. I mean my Hip Hop ears were forged in the efforts needed to decipher everyone from Nas to Jay to Pun and Canibus etc.. Complex lyrics were a joy to listen to and decipher… This asinine shit was not. We continued for a few minutes until I realized. I’m out of touch. So I gave the source of that quote a listen. A Millie which has been remixed 4.7 billion times at the time of this writing. and the shit was just a cacophony of harsh sounds and gibberish with some sense made here n there. All of the sudden I felt like Grandad from The Boondocks and I was surrounded by a gang of Rileys.
The thing about Wayne is he seems to be everywhere at once. Having gone from cameo’s on songs with the likes of Juelz Santana to collaborations with Enrique Iglesias Lil Wayne went from a Mogwai that was fed after midnight to a pop icon. I continued to be baffled. It’s like people started buying into this Greatest Rapper shit because they constantly saw him. Or as I saw it put on another blog
“Don’t get me wrong, I know that Wayne still drops some hot shit, but I think most of the music listeners out there like dude only because he’s always there. Weezy’s music is like celery at a BBQ. You don’t go to the BBQ just to eat celery, but 9 times out of 10, that’s what’s gonna be there the most. So, when nigga eat up all the chicken and ribs, you just start eating the celery because its there for you. Weezy’s music is always there, so niggas eat it up, even if they don’t really want to.”
- M.Garland
http://www.therezidue.com/2008/06/weezywatch.html
I couldn’t have said it better myself. The fact of the matter is while Weezy can have flashes of being a capable to brilliant Emcee, the vast quantity of gibberish deducts from his overall status. I mean shit look what it did to Cam. And yet in a playing field where the sliding scale is more Soulja Boy than Joell Ortiz, Maybe… Just Maybe Lil Wayne has found that fine line to walk to be considered a fuckin legend.
You gotta love the fans. A good litmus test as to the impact an artist is having is to see what kind of fan dedications are being made. In my pursuit of an appropriate pic to use from photobucket I came across a few such dedications to his masterful lyricism. Observe.

ok… that is interesting.
alright.. a seemingly VERY popular simile that speaks to Wayne’s determination.
Seemingly sound relationship advice from Lil Wayne. Though it seems unimaginative at best.
Today is a gift thats why they call it the present. GIMME A FUCKIN BREAK. I mean how can he get props for sayin some shit that kids typically say to show they are witty. What is next.
“Turn that frown Upside Down - Lil Wayne”
“The grass is always greener on the other side - Lil Wayne”
I know Nas said No Idea Is Original but SHIT. The average rap fan is unfamiliar with the touching and in depth street tales that were woven for me throughout my youth. From I Gave You Power to Somebody’s Got To Die to Me and My Girlfriend to NY State of Mind part 2 to Body In The Trunk to D rugs to so on and so forth. And even the more recent feats of excelling penmanship such as Three Sides To a Story, are overshadowed by the nonsensical songs with a hot beat and bullshit video.. perhaps it is they who are out of touch and not I. However the same can be said of my era regarding the era before. Again this is a generalization, but It’s all cyclical now.
At the end of the day I don’t fuck with Lil Wayne, but I can understand why he has the movement that he has. Looking at his ascension objectively, you could argue that Lil Wayne, if he keeps his level of relevance and music at this relative level or something comparable to it, will be considered the greatest rapper of all time. Of course that would require Jay Z to actively fall back from music. Part of me wonders if the fickle nature of young rap fans drives Jay to try and remain relevant. Heavy is the head that wears the crown, but time makes fools of us all.




37 Responses for "Deconstructing the Myth of Lil Wayne…"
good shit!
I’m kinda on your side for this one. But, I can’t front, wayne has more than a couple of nice tracks. I don’t, jump on-board for every word that comes outta waynes mouth though. I wasn’t anticipating the drop of this album… since it’s been leaking every month like a menstrual bleed… for the last 2 years.
Damn you cmac!
SECOND! Ow!
(Is it still not cool to do that? Lol)
Excellent post BK Scribe. I sometimes ponder why Lil’ Wayne is as lauded as he is. I just don’t get what all the commotion is about. Sure he says a few clever things…..intermittently(lol..I’m a hater!), but I definitely would never, ever, ever, ever, ever..ever, ever, ever… say he’s the best rapper alive. I HATE that he’s everywhere, and I hate even more that he’s getting noticeably lazy with his verses. (Lloyd’s “Girls around the World” song is a prime example of this) I cringed when I heard his half assed rhymes on that track.
Like you said though, he’s there. And until that sizzurp he’s so fond of, gets the better of him, he aint going nowhere. So I suppose I’ll just have to tolerate him.
And I downloaded the Carter III…yesterday. Just not sure when I’ll actually expose my eardrums to it. It’s touch and go right now.
In any case…bang up job on this post my dude.
-Mindy Marin (somedays)/ Miss Avon (other days)
Wayne is useless. No classic songs under his belt. Fuck Wayne with a rusty crowbar.
great blog BK…
you came without any angst or hate on dude and broke down the Myth well. I was thinking the same thing as you and Maruice G was thinking…it’s cause he’s everywhere and always on songs, constantly here and there. SO then he becomes the “best” cause he is there all the time and thats all thats there to even choose from (which isnt true, Im suprised mroe of these youngins dont find out about these great underground mc’s esp sicne they on the computer so cot damn much).
great job sir.
Brilliant my nig. Though I do fuck with Weezy’s music because I can find him entertaining, I will never crown top20 status because of his inconsistencies as an MC. But their is a silver lining Weezy has somehow transended his status as just a Rapper and become more of an Entertainer/Show( yes amy winehouse). I was at the Weezy show and fuck me in the ass with a Plunger[||] if that shit wasnt an incredible performance and I have Seen Jigga, Kanye twice(in a small venue and Glow in the dark), MOP, KRS etc etc…. And I can say with a straight ass face his show was at their level if not superior(no Roots Show). What I am saying BK is that Weezy now is more of a Pop star whose fans consisist of not one particular group of people. When you do reach that level though, I think an artist who represents rap should have a little more responsibility. Thats why I respect Kanye who isnt afraid to attimes speak out on injustices and especially when his popularity is at an alltime high. I say Weezy has an opportunity to speak out but probably wont because he has nothing substantial or articulate enough to say…… it is what it is.
Snoop doggs Jawn on the Tunnel was my ish btw….
Thanks to all for checking in..
@ Cmac.. I see what you’re saying because he is always dropping an album might not be anticipated.. but he did damn near gold his first day.. He’s doing something right.
@Mindy/Avon.. if someone would have told me in 98.. That guy from The Hot Boys…. would be considered by some the greatest rapper alive.. I would have drop kicked em.. yet lo and behold.. he is. by the way nice Ti vs TIP thing you got goin on.
LMAO @ Rey.. so far you’ve said fuck lil wayne with a bunch of number 2 pencils.. a rusty crowbar and i think a corona bottle with the front broken off.. brutal.
MTF! good looks on the check in! i only hope that these fucks look into some older shit to edify themselves
@fuxie.. I feel you homie.. he transcended rap to become a character.. which is good.. but he’s labeled hip hop and will eventually become the standard people expect when they approach a hip hop act. double edged sword.. fuggit
I don’t think I would’ve used a broken corona bottle. I think maybe I said “Fuck Lil’ Wayne with a rusty harpoon” tho’.
Sir Scribe….
Are you conceding that he’s the greatest?!?!
If so…For shame!!
I will never..EVER…ever,ever,ever,ever,ever…EVER…do that. No matter how big he gets.
And regarding the ‘TI vs. Tip’ thing…
Shit’s real B….Two sides to every story right?
Nooooo Clifford I meant he is CONSIDERED BY SOME… not that he is.. now excuse me while i wash my eyes with bleach after reading that comment suggesting that was MY thought
LOL…Am I slow?
This is the second time I misconstued your words.
*runs away*
*comes back and corrects mispelled word*
misconstrued*
nah waynes gremlinesque stature makes us all take a sip of that lean by proxy… orrr maybe im just fast.
Uh…yeah….that’s it….
You’re too damn fast baby boy.
I need time to “ketch” up.
“ketch” up huh.. well im glad we agree on using condiments.
“I’m here all week folks.. try the veal”
Lil’ Wayne > 95.843902843920% of what’s on the radio now
Don’t believe me?
*Turn dial to every station, including Country and Talk Radio*
*Ironically every song heard features T-Pain*
Seriously….Tha Carter III is not as bad as people are making it out to be…
*puts on Tomato-proof Kevlar*
*puts on Tomato-proof Kevlar*
^
tee hee….
smart guy
great drop.
people need to take off the weezy-coloured glasses and accept that while he’s not wack, he’s definitely not in the higher echelon of great emcees.
Carter III was extremely disappointing and i can’t help but feel sorry for the youngins that think its an opus.
Mr. Holland’s Opus > Mr. Carter’s Opus
lil wayne= pop superstar, like he said…
the worst part is he can beef with someone and they can exchange barbs and he can get beasted (see clipse) and the stans turn a blind eye…nrmally gettin roasted aint too good for publicity.
but i guess disses and battles respective effects have been diluted since theres been 0290898798 of them in the last 2 years…but lemme stop gettin off topic
Excellent post man….first off what’s up and all that friendly bullshit now let’s get to the commentary…
I sat down and listened to this bullshit “classic” that 911 sent to me via email and I must say I was not impressed at all…I got out of my ignorance and gave it a chance {please give me credit for that and the time I wasted listening to it back} I listened to misunderstood and thought it was funny because he was straight talking with a beat saying hella stupid shit, but oh…I forgot he’s an artist and that’s artisitic and ironically he’s misunderstood right? GTFOH
I heard phone home and phoned my threapist because I couldn’t believe niggas was actually quoting this bullshit…I guess I need to smoke weed full time gain to understand this bullshit…..
I’m 23 yrs old and my peers who I would think feel the same way are also eating this bullshit up…my closest friend in the world and a dude I was dying to smash are weezy fans and it kills me because I can’t fall into the this bullshit hype…now both dudes are very intelligent dudes, but somewhere down the line of weed and acceptance these niggas fell into some harsh times, wanted to commit suicide and heard I feel like dying in the background somewhere…I really don’t know where I’m going with this so I’m just going to end it now….and do you know why I’m ending it like this…because I’m misunderstood…..do you understand the fuckery now?
^^^
whoa!
Hey spoony!
(It’s Mindy, disguised at Miss Avon)
I feel you girlfriend.
Spoony Says:
“a dude I was dying to smash are weezy fans”
for the record… im not a weezy fan.
Also I agree 100% with what you’re saying.. I just had to go in this way because I had to be objective and express myself without “bein a haterrrr”
that being said.. weezy transcended hip hop into something else..
i think you hit the nail on the head though lol
you are a fool..that is all
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**tears**
I thought I was the only one who felt this way…I’m mad late, but I just discovered this.
shit its never too late when it comes to shit like this homie..
good looks on the check in
Stop lying to yourself and thinkin only kids like Wayne. I’m an old head and been a fan since the Hot Boys. I went to his show in NY at the Beacon and there were just as many young cats there as old heads and all were lovin him the same. Young cats knew his old stuff the same as his new stuff.
And just cause your from Ny doesnt mean u speak for all of Ny. Some east coast cats slept on or hated on the south before the south blew up but not all. More were feelin it than u think.
whaddup nina.. pardon my lateness.. if you’re a fan of wayne that’s cool..
if other ‘old heads’ appreciate mr. wobbildy wobbildy… thas cool.
but you can’t tell me that on average he got WAY more young fans than old heads. lets be serious.. like i said I felt lil wayne was a problem off the flex CD with that track respect. But i’ve since out grown and cant relate to the shit he intentionally targets at the youth.
Aiight. It’s fair to say that Dwayne Carter is NOT the Greatest Rapper alive, but he most definately is puttin the most work in, and gettin his music spread out. If anything he is the Rapper with the Greatest work ethic.. alive, and thats really all of what hip hop is nowadays. Hes bankin hella off his shit and hes sellin records out the ass. For hip hop’s sake, he is SAVING it…damn near single-handedly. Why else is he being discussed about right now.
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